When statements are made in media, in its various kinds, over results of a hit from a rifle/handgun bullet, it often leaves a lot of unanswered questions. Especially is that so in today’s hyped-up media where certain personalities are involved, or certain personalities are prone to want self promotion. Also, in that regard, the “need” to sell something. . . !
What do I mean?
Well, for instance: Right now, as I write this an ongoing thread on ranges to elk kills is taking place on http://www.24hrcampfire.com. Most of it is focused on EXPERIENCE AND EQUIPMENT, and very little, if any, on field conditions as well as the animal’s behaviour and conditions, and little on the reality of being under pressure in the execution of a lethal shot!
< A rest for the arm or rifle itself is mighty handy in using a .458 Win Mag on any beast with the talent and equipment to take your life!
It seems to me, after 7 decades of hunting activities, that the conditions of the hunt and therefore the conditions of the shot is the most significant drama of the episode! Did he/she shoot from prone, sitting, standing without support (offhand), a rest, what kind of rest, any obstacles, trees, brush, boulders, wind, how strong, from what direction, any snow, rain, hail, other animals like buffalo or elephant in a herd, etc . . . .
There is practically no end to potential CONDITIONS! And some certain few want to brag about long-range shooting of elk? What about long-range shooting of lion, elephant or brown bear? It’s apparent, is it not, that such boasting isn’t applicable to certain other species, but only when it’s “SAFE” to do so! What if there’s a wounding or, “horrors”, a miss?
Somehow I can’t quite picture an 800 yd shot on a bull moose that’s travelling along the edge of a river, lake or escarpment with a potential fall of 100 feet or more!
In the “Far North” of our Province of Ontario we came across this situation: Farther than it looks, about 150 yards to the top of a sharp hill where dozens of fresh moose tracks were found both coming and going to the top. Yet beyond the farthest trees at the top was a sheer drop down to about the same elevation as the camera man – which was I! With all those tracks, my heart was beating in anticipation of finding a bull on the far side! No it/they didn’t fall over the cliff! They may appear stupid to the untrained eye, but they’re not!
Yep, conditions of the shot are not just “important” but “ALL IMPORTANT” in most of today’s world! That’s a major reason why licensed hunters are required to pay licensed guides once they step out of their own “back yard”! No one is legal in attempting a shot on a lion at anything near 800 yds! Even at 80 yds, a wounded lion, or even a miss will not only require a licensed PH to sort it out but perhaps even at the cost of a human life!
Recently, I watched a safari hunt of a male lion of a certain age and size. It included unbelievable drama after the first shot. That male lion went into a typical African bush so thick that any follow-up shots – and there were 7 – if I recall correctly – before final termination! At least three of those were guesses of where the lion actually was! Even the PH was terrified! The first shot was maybe 40 yards. If that lion had charged from that distance somebody was going to get hurt very badly! Maybe more than one!
<Not this one as it’s an Internet lion, but the real one was resting in tall grass with another nearby. When the safari truck stopped it got up and started to move away. The hunter and PH got their rifles and pursued the beast partially hidden by bush and grass, but it stopped at about 40 yards and the hunter took an off handed shot at the direction of the PH that was too low and far forward. Then the lion took off into the thick jesse where it was hidden from view. . . but continued growling. Focusing on the growling only, more shots were fired by the hunter and PH without effect!
So, once again, conditions of the shot are vitally important! A big male lion wounded at 40 yards. . . . What was the mental state of the hunter ? And the PH? I’ve watched that video at least twice, and I just can’t conceive of the PH and his hunter having to go into thick scrub brush for a big male lion that was wounded at 40 yds! The sad truth is that neither were mentally and emotionally prepared!
And please don’t excuse them with:”That’s hunting of DG!” THEIR FEAR was PALPABLE!
DG is dangerous game, no kidding! Don’t go DG hunting in Africa or Alaska, or anywhere else unless you have a certain % of type “A” in you, plus some NA experience with some large potentially agressive beasts. . . like a bull moose in the rut! You and I need to know that in such encounters we have at least a 95% advantage over that of the beast – NOT a 50/50 one! Those are mental and emotional experiences, and until we can adequately handle something of that nature alone with a more powerful weapon than a .30-06 I’d seriously question our readiness of going into thick jesse after a wounded buff or lion! John Wootters once told me that he never counted on the PH’s weapon to bail him out of trouble! Those are conditioning experiences of mind and emotions that determine in large part the “Conditions of the Shot”, because it all starts with the mind that determines emotions! How we think about it will instantly produce confidence or fear!
Let me assure you: There is no fear in taking a shot on any creature at 750 to 1000 yards, let alone a 600 – 700 lb elk! Nerves should be as cold as steel! But try 40 yds on a big male lion! Alone in the bush! My big-beautiful black bear came within 20 yds. He was bigger than that lion at perhaps 450 lbs. “My bear” was 500 – 600 lbs. I was alone in a wilderness with him but had my .375 H&H pointed with crosshairs on his neck and back. I turned and walked away because he was far more than I was wanting.
Conditions? I knew he was big because for two years he was dominating that whole region of Crown Land. So I loaded my .375 H&H for an encounter should it turn nasty. It didn’t, so I passed without uncertain trouble.
Conditions of the shot matter. . . . he came to within 20 yds, about 15 – 20 ft below me, and never looked up at me, though he knew I was there, and never missed a step, or hurried, or charged. . . I was his grocery boy. . . he knew my scent, so how would he have reacted face to face? I didn’t know so I didn’t chance it! Sometimes those are the conditions of a hunt. My .375 H&H was loaded with a 300gr Sierra BT at 2674 fps avg, dead on at 100 yds.
Sometimes a shot is very close, sometimes far, maybe a sharp angle, are there any obstacles? I shudder when I see PHs directing clients to shoot a dugga boy through impossibly thick mopane. . . But the show must go on! After all, that client paid big money for a dugga boy! And the PH’s reputation is at stake! Do you have a reputation to defend? Not likely, but you do have your own life to defend. . . . . Think about that! Don’t count on the PH or guide to bail you out because they have a bigger gun that yours. They may have to, as they’re paid to do that if it comes down to it. . . . But will they? Can they? What if that mentioned PH in the lion fight had been seriously mauled by that lion? Or killed? Then what. . . .?
If you don’t feel comfortable with the conditions of the shot, don’t take it – unless it’s a matter of a life or death situation – for yourself or someone else!
Till the next . . . . .
Shalom
BOB MITCHELL
My hope and my DEFENDER: “Because he loves me”, says the LORD, “I will rescue him; I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. He will call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him!
“With long life I will satisfy him and show him my salvation.” – (God in Psalm 91, verses 14, 15 and 16.)

<My second Ruger No.1 in .45-70 that was given the long throat (LT) by my gunsmith. At a later date he also gave it a Pachmayr butt pad. The scope was a new Burris fixed 4x with a long eye-relief of 5.5″. Firing a 500gr RN at +2200 fps from its 22″ barrel it was within 50 fps of Hornady’s handload of that same bullet fired in the .458 Lott. At the time I wrote in my .45-70 manual “Who needs a .458 Lott?”.
< Corrected to MV = 2212 fps/5464 ft-lbs since the 500gr Hornadies from my box averaged 503 grs.
< My first .338 Win Mag was identical to this.
< This is the only remaining copy of the first edition of the reloading journal I offered in 2008. I still have it because of the obvious printing mistake in the title. All others sold rather quickly. It was based almost entirely on handloading results from my CZ 550 in .458 Winchester Magnum. The second edition came out in 2011 as the 2011 Edition and contained about 2x as much material. Even at that it was less than 1/3 the thickness of my last .45-70 manual.

That’s a 3-inch hole going into a bear’s chest/heart area! It was found in the opposite arm pit in skinning. The bullet was a Speer 400/.458 at ~ 1535 fps impact. It retained 90.4% of original weight! And that from a 7 yr-old trophy male bear. Even a bullet that expands over 2x its diameter at 1″ could never produce a 3″ cavity like that without kinetic energy!
< The SPEER 400gr retrieved from the offside arm pit. It retained 361.4 grains (90.4%).
< Some of my 2025 activities: Testing a new load for my .35 Whelen – a 250gr Partition.
< Typical Haliburton Highland’s wilderness. That was my former CZ 550 in .458 Win Mag loaded with the 350gr TSX’s at 2750 fps.
<Bob and moose. Based on measurements and boned-out meat, about 1100 lbs. That was my .340 Wby Mag.
Not this one but similar. I also wounded a really big matriarch with a troup when they came around a sharp corner and surprised me. I hit her a bit high in the shoulder and the Brenneke skidded off and she left in a hurry with her little troup. Madi, my guide told my son later that he came across her in the same area and she seemed fine but had some missing hair and skin from her shoulder.
A very nice McMillan G30 PRESTIGE in .416 Rem Mag that holds five.
A gorgeous M70 from their custom shop in .416 Taylor. Still available at EPPS at a much reduced price, but still too rich for my bank account.
<My final 1895 Marlin – note the heavy barrel. It got invested into my current Ruger No.1H in .458 Win.